(REL) 360 Launch Tower

Mackie85 · 04-22-2009, 04:27 PM

Well Twilight Zone Drop cars have been put on hold due to the recent release of a very similair CFR so I decided to put into action something I have been pondering for quite a while. As far as I am aware there is no ride like this in the real world today, therefore making it a world first to RCT3. I may be wrong however and if I am then please let me know, but I'm almost certain I am not.

Anyway! The project is codenamed S.D.T, short for "Sonic Drop Tower" and basically is a modern twist on the ever popular Freefall towers of Intamin and S&S Power. Rather that having the guest sitting in an upright position for the ride the unique "360 Cars" have the ability to rotate in full 360 degree motion. I am using this design for a space shuttle themed ride where riders are launched into the sky on their backs facing skywards, before flipping over in full inversion at the summit to face the ground for the descent. Before levelling out into normal seating stance at the bottom.

This is the layout of the cars, 4 across on gondola style arms allowing for full rotation movement. The carriage is considerably larger than standard launch cars. Textures are a rough draft and will be updated in due course. Because of the amount of animation this needs it will take some time to be finished but thought I'd put the concept out there for some feedback.

gavt1976 · 04-22-2009, 04:32 PM

I have not seen one of these in the real world or RCT3 and if you make this, this ride is going to be awesome and i am looking forward to see more of it.

If you need anymore ride ideas just let me know or you could have a look at a thread called List of Custom Flat Rides/Cfr Ideas: Menoo_'s Madhouses Added!, because there is some great rides that we all would like to see in RCT3.

rct3parkmake · 04-22-2009, 06:16 PM

Well, I think that this is a very good idea, I just debate whether or not this could actually exist. Also, why not give it some kind of spacey name if you don't like S.D.T.

91ad11 · 04-22-2009, 06:59 PM

This Could Turn out so amazing ,

You could make its as a Mission to space :P Idea Sound Interesting , Cant Wait to see more

91 Productions - War Of The Worlds Pov Coming soon -

SSSuperShaggy · 04-22-2009, 07:00 PM

Wow! That is a great idea! I think it could work if you keep going.

~ Shaggy

Atem · 04-22-2009, 09:22 PM

I've always had this idea, cool to see someone try it out. I think if you want to go for realism with this, you should make it face down at the top, and just before the brakes front flip the cars so the peeps are on their backs. Best of luck with this, it looks awesome

also I really hate to break it to you but http://themeparkeng.org.ohio-state.edu/#projects

Kylе · 04-22-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackie85

S.D.T

Sounds much like "STD"

I love the idea, however, and can't wait to see it.

Mackie85 · 04-23-2009, 01:36 PM

Quick question for anyone who knows how. Have searched about a bit but to no avail.

I have made the models in Sketchup and have some knowledge in frame animating but I am:-

A) Unable to do that using sketchup without forking out 50 quid for plugins and not entirely sure if the game would suppourt that anyways.

B) Not sure what programme to use that I can transfer my models over to to allow me to animate the ride sequence.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

gavt1976 · 04-23-2009, 01:42 PM

You could always used blender because that is free and so is sketchup and the plugins are free as well.

Could you tell what other CFR have you done.

And have a look at this link has well because it would help you with blender.

http://blenderunderground.com/video-tutorials/

mrd101 · 04-23-2009, 02:14 PM

This is gonna be awesome!!

RCT3Callum · 04-25-2009, 09:49 AM

This sounds incredible! I'd actually love to see one in real life, your first picture looks like a perfect pitchable concept picture to me. Really, that would be a wicked ride!

Flap · 04-26-2009, 08:56 AM

i have that thing as a fair model build a few years ago to test, and with the G-Force and Fall power its too much to build in real life,
i have done some tests and if you want to loopt this, it isnt possible...

And its totaly unsafe with the calculations i did make

Steffen · 04-26-2009, 09:53 AM

I'm sure this would be widely used when it's being released! They'll add a whole new dimension to drop towers.

RCT3Callum · 04-26-2009, 11:56 AM

I disagree with the idea of extreme G-Forces, it's just putting you in another position?

Isn't it similar to dropping people outside of the sitting position on a multi-dimensional coaster?
Isn't it similar to a Sky Coaster, where you free-fly between the two structures, in term of positions?

It is also possible to have a ride that tilts the riders towards the floor, roughly 30 degrees, at the summit, and keeps them in that position on the descent. It's been done in real life around 200ft I think?

Flap · 04-26-2009, 12:14 PM

youre all wrong cause my calculations said this droptower, cause i made a model of it cause some fairvistor came on this idea too, is that the g-force is higher than 6.2 the real life,

so not possible or you all going to die

RCT3Callum · 04-26-2009, 12:19 PM

The problem is, we might be wrong, you might be wrong.

We're basing it off existing rides, you're basing it off a single model you made. You're also not showing the calculations. Therefore, it's pretty hard to judge anything, but it'd certainly make a nice addition to RCT3.

Quick question: Have you ever made a model of a real life ride, if so how close were your calculations?

Mackie85 · 04-26-2009, 02:23 PM

I disagree. It's not being designed to spin out of control as it shoots up and down the tower just merely add an inversion at the top and allow the rider to change position.

Anyways it's a game who cares if the G's were too high.

gavt1976 · 04-26-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackie85

I disagree. It's not being designed to spin out of control as it shoots up and down the tower just merely add an inversion at the top and allow the rider to change position.

Anyways it's a game who cares if the G's were too high.

I think that you will do amazing job on it mackie85 and i am looking forward to see more of it.

Rct3-Owen · 05-01-2009, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCT3Callum

I disagree with the idea of extreme G-Forces, it's just putting you in another position?

Isn't it similar to dropping people outside of the sitting position on a multi-dimensional coaster?
Isn't it similar to a Sky Coaster, where you free-fly between the two structures, in term of positions?

It is also possible to have a ride that tilts the riders towards the floor, roughly 30 degrees, at the summit, and keeps them in that position on the descent. It's been done in real life around 200ft I think?

It has been done at Drayton manner i think but i'm not certain. I cant see how the G's would be higher except for the fact that the blood in your head (presuming your upside down) would amplify the current g's acting upon you?
Good luck anyway. Please make this concept real.

azanderz · 05-01-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackie85

I disagree. It's not being designed to spin out of control as it shoots up and down the tower just merely add an inversion at the top and allow the rider to change position.

Anyways it's a game who cares if the G's were too high.

i do. Who wants a ride with a G count 0f 6-10 G's. I change coasters i build in parks if the count is too high. Why aim after something completely unrealistic

?

scfjunkie · 05-01-2009, 10:08 AM

y not being creative...?
I really like the idea and really look forward to see more...
I prefer seeing an maybe unrealistic car than see other people copy the ingame cars and shine with their bad UV Mapping...
Keep up your work Mackie85

scfjunkie

RCT3Callum · 05-01-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rct3-Owen

It has been done at Drayton manner i think but i'm not certain. I cant see how the G's would be higher except for the fact that the blood in your head (presuming your upside down) would amplify the current g's acting upon you?
Good luck anyway. Please make this concept real.

I think Drayton Manor tilts at roughly 30degrees, but it's from behind the seat, as opposed to the unique rods this ride uses.

I think that putting riders in a different position going up and down is similar to 4D coasters, like X drops riders facing downwards.

Although the poster of the idea doesn't intend to drop them facing downwards, it probably would have an effect on the Gs in reality yes.

I agree, make it real! Best of luck again!

Schaffie · 05-01-2009, 01:15 PM

Your cheek skin would probably be where your ear is supposed to be, but I really like the creative concept

RCT3Callum · 05-01-2009, 01:35 PM

I don't get this 'argument' at all.

Currently, it is entirely possible to make a rollercoaster blast at about 200mph by adding the right engine, and making it pull deadly G-Forces. This could easily be done in the same Format at Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster and Stealth (Thorpe Park). That doesn't mean that they're going to make the ride do that!

By giving a park this incredible, unique, highly intelligent and pitchable concept it doesn't mean they are going to make people spin upside down like crazy while pulling the Natural 4Gs. It's down to the user, not the creator...

A simple version of this tower is the current version. There's nothing stopping a park blasting it at 250mph straight off the top? They don't, not because of an unavailability, but because it wouldn't be smart.

-

Similarly, on RCT3 we are currently technically able to drop riders 100mph down a 200ft hill, then straight into a tight, unbanked turn without a break run. It's possible, and that'd pull insane Gs. Why does everyone hate this concept because it gives the POSSIBILITY of an extremely dangerous ride?

Schaffie · 05-01-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCT3Callum

I don't get this 'argument' at all.

Currently, it is entirely possible to make a rollercoaster blast at about 200mph by adding the right engine, and making it pull deadly G-Forces. This could easily be done in the same Format at Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster and Stealth (Thorpe Park). That doesn't mean that they're going to make the ride do that!

By giving a park this incredible, unique, highly intelligent and pitchable concept it doesn't mean they are going to make people spin upside down like crazy while pulling the Natural 4Gs. It's down to the user, not the creator...

A simple version of this tower is the current version. There's nothing stopping a park blasting it at 250mph straight off the top? They don't, not because of an unavailability, but because it wouldn't be smart.

-

Similarly, on RCT3 we are currently technically able to drop riders 100mph down a 200ft hill, then straight into a tight, unbanked turn without a break run. It's possible, and that'd pull insane Gs. Why does everyone hate this concept because it gives the POSSIBILITY of an extremely dangerous ride?

Amen

Atem · 05-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Here's what I think, just to throw my 2 cents. It's not really how high the g's are, you can probably work that out easy, it's entirely in the placement. If I were to make a tilting drop tower that faces you straight down, I'd have it drop you like that for most of the time, then front flip x2 style onto your back which is the best spot to absorb g forces. However, it is RCT3 so you can do whatever the hell you want

darkGDI · 05-03-2009, 11:19 PM

sounds like a cool idea, and you've got my download if it turns out alright!

Mackie85 · 05-06-2009, 04:57 PM

Folks just to let you know system problems have been resolved and laptop is now running faster and smoother than ever. Another 2GBs of ram are on their way and once I install them and transfer all files back over we will be back in business to get this finished and hopefully ingame.

Cheers

gavt1976 · 05-06-2009, 04:58 PM

Thanks for letting us know mackie, what is happening and we are all looking forward to see this new ride of yours.

Flap · 05-12-2009, 03:34 AM

well the force you get on droptowers is almost 4.5 G-Force,

So the towers can't be higher than 35 metres or you get over the G-max.

The force on droptowers is different to a rollercoaster. by a rollercoaster you get more G-Force in front of your face, in droptowers the G-Force comes from down under.

If you put your head down under the g-force would be to hard for people cause there loose things in their brain cause of the hard G.

Never loop a droptower,
it's too dangerous for us all.

04-22-2009, 04:27 PM	#1
Mackie85 Custom Designer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 100	(REL) 360 Launch Tower Well Twilight Zone Drop cars have been put on hold due to the recent release of a very similair CFR so I decided to put into action something I have been pondering for quite a while. As far as I am aware there is no ride like this in the real world today, therefore making it a world first to RCT3. I may be wrong however and if I am then please let me know, but I'm almost certain I am not. Anyway! The project is codenamed S.D.T, short for "Sonic Drop Tower" and basically is a modern twist on the ever popular Freefall towers of Intamin and S&S Power. Rather that having the guest sitting in an upright position for the ride the unique "360 Cars" have the ability to rotate in full 360 degree motion. I am using this design for a space shuttle themed ride where riders are launched into the sky on their backs facing skywards, before flipping over in full inversion at the summit to face the ground for the descent. Before levelling out into normal seating stance at the bottom. This is the layout of the cars, 4 across on gondola style arms allowing for full rotation movement. The carriage is considerably larger than standard launch cars. Textures are a rough draft and will be updated in due course. Because of the amount of animation this needs it will take some time to be finished but thought I'd put the concept out there for some feedback. __________________ C.M Designs Tycoon Engineering Last edited by Mackie85; 07-07-2009 at 07:50 AM.

04-22-2009, 06:16 PM	#3
rct3parkmake I am Silent Member. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: On the edge of existance. Posts: 1,281	Well, I think that this is a very good idea, I just debate whether or not this *could* actually exist. Also, why not give it some kind of spacey name if you don't like S.D.T. __________________

04-22-2009, 07:00 PM	#5
SSSuperShaggy celebrate like imma be Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,097	Wow! That is a great idea! I think it could work if you keep going. ~ Shaggy __________________ woo!

04-22-2009, 09:22 PM	#6
Atem Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 83	I've always had this idea, cool to see someone try it out. I think if you want to go for realism with this, you should make it face down at the top, and just before the brakes front flip the cars so the peeps are on their backs. Best of luck with this, it looks awesome also I really hate to break it to you but http://themeparkeng.org.ohio-state.edu/#projects __________________ My life is like a coaster....I get dispatched, roll towards the lift hill, it disengages, and I let gravity take care of the rest Last edited by Atem; 04-23-2009 at 12:35 AM.

04-23-2009, 01:36 PM	#8
Mackie85 Custom Designer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 100	Quick question for anyone who knows how. Have searched about a bit but to no avail. I have made the models in Sketchup and have some knowledge in frame animating but I am:- A) Unable to do that using sketchup without forking out 50 quid for plugins and not entirely sure if the game would suppourt that anyways. B) Not sure what programme to use that I can transfer my models over to to allow me to animate the ride sequence. Any help would be greatly appreciated __________________ C.M Designs Tycoon Engineering

04-22-2009, 04:32 PM	#2
gavt1976 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6,340	I have not seen one of these in the real world or RCT3 and if you make this, this ride is going to be awesome and i am looking forward to see more of it. If you need anymore ride ideas just let me know or you could have a look at a thread called List of Custom Flat Rides/Cfr Ideas: Menoo_'s Madhouses Added!, because there is some great rides that we all would like to see in RCT3.

04-22-2009, 06:59 PM	#4
91ad11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boston , England Posts: 555	This Could Turn out so amazing , You could make its as a Mission to space :P Idea Sound Interesting , Cant Wait to see more 91 Productions - War Of The Worlds Pov Coming soon -

04-23-2009, 01:42 PM	#9
gavt1976 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6,340	You could always used blender because that is free and so is sketchup and the plugins are free as well. Could you tell what other CFR have you done. And have a look at this link has well because it would help you with blender. http://blenderunderground.com/video-tutorials/

04-23-2009, 02:14 PM	#10
mrd101 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 129	This is gonna be awesome!!

04-25-2009, 09:49 AM	#11
RCT3Callum The End. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 2,367	This sounds incredible! I'd actually love to see one in real life, your first picture looks like a perfect pitchable concept picture to me. Really, that would be a wicked ride! __________________ JFKhhhhhhhhhhhh: "fail dude fail any one who says fail is retarded" Free Cash/Items

04-26-2009, 08:56 AM	#12
Flap Intoxx Crew Meeuws Exploitatie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holland Posts: 351	i have that thing as a fair model build a few years ago to test, and with the G-Force and Fall power its too much to build in real life, i have done some tests and if you want to loopt this, it isnt possible... And its totaly unsafe with the calculations i did make

04-26-2009, 09:53 AM	#13
Steffen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Randers in Denmark Posts: 2,065	I'm sure this would be widely used when it's being released! They'll add a whole new dimension to drop towers. __________________ PARKS :Flussgärten Familienpark ~ Vivaldi Park Pacific Paradise ~ Winter Wonderland ~Skovparken TRACKS: Mining Madness (on hold) ~ Blue Tornado CS:Mexico World

04-26-2009, 11:56 AM	#14
RCT3Callum The End. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 2,367	I disagree with the idea of extreme G-Forces, it's just putting you in another position? Isn't it similar to dropping people outside of the sitting position on a multi-dimensional coaster? Isn't it similar to a Sky Coaster, where you free-fly between the two structures, in term of positions? It is also possible to have a ride that tilts the riders towards the floor, roughly 30 degrees, at the summit, and keeps them in that position on the descent. It's been done in real life around 200ft I think? __________________ JFKhhhhhhhhhhhh: "fail dude fail any one who says fail is retarded" Free Cash/Items

04-26-2009, 12:14 PM	#15
Flap Intoxx Crew Meeuws Exploitatie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holland Posts: 351	youre all wrong cause my calculations said this droptower, cause i made a model of it cause some fairvistor came on this idea too, is that the g-force is higher than 6.2 the real life, so not possible or you all going to die

04-26-2009, 12:19 PM	#16
RCT3Callum The End. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 2,367	The problem is, we might be wrong, you might be wrong. We're basing it off existing rides, you're basing it off a single model you made. You're also not showing the calculations. Therefore, it's pretty hard to judge anything, but it'd certainly make a nice addition to RCT3. Quick question: Have you ever made a model of a real life ride, if so how close were your calculations? __________________ JFKhhhhhhhhhhhh: "fail dude fail any one who says fail is retarded" Free Cash/Items

04-26-2009, 02:23 PM	#17
Mackie85 Custom Designer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 100	I disagree. It's not being designed to spin out of control as it shoots up and down the tower just merely add an inversion at the top and allow the rider to change position. Anyways it's a game who cares if the G's were too high. __________________ C.M Designs Tycoon Engineering

05-01-2009, 10:08 AM	#21
scfjunkie uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 194	y not being creative...? I really like the idea and really look forward to see more... I prefer seeing an maybe unrealistic car than see other people copy the ingame cars and shine with their bad UV Mapping... Keep up your work Mackie85 scfjunkie

05-01-2009, 01:15 PM	#23
Schaffie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: A place nearly flooded... Posts: 78	Your cheek skin would probably be where your ear is supposed to be, but I really like the creative concept __________________ Have you ever noticed how almost every person from The Netherlands apologizes in some way for their so-called bad English?

05-01-2009, 01:35 PM	#24
RCT3Callum The End. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 2,367	I don't get this 'argument' at all. Currently, it is entirely possible to make a rollercoaster blast at about 200mph by adding the right engine, and making it pull deadly G-Forces. This could easily be done in the same Format at Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster and Stealth (Thorpe Park). That doesn't mean that they're going to make the ride do that! By giving a park this incredible, unique, highly intelligent and pitchable concept it doesn't mean they are going to make people spin upside down like crazy while pulling the Natural 4Gs. It's down to the user, not the creator... A simple version of this tower is the current version. There's nothing stopping a park blasting it at 250mph straight off the top? They don't, not because of an unavailability, but because it wouldn't be smart. - Similarly, on RCT3 we are currently technically able to drop riders 100mph down a 200ft hill, then straight into a tight, unbanked turn without a break run. It's possible, and that'd pull insane Gs. Why does everyone hate this concept because it gives the POSSIBILITY of an extremely dangerous ride? __________________ JFKhhhhhhhhhhhh: "fail dude fail any one who says fail is retarded" Free Cash/Items

05-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#26
Atem Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 83	Here's what I think, just to throw my 2 cents. It's not really how high the g's are, you can probably work that out easy, it's entirely in the placement. If I were to make a tilting drop tower that faces you straight down, I'd have it drop you like that for most of the time, then front flip x2 style onto your back which is the best spot to absorb g forces. However, it is RCT3 so you can do whatever the hell you want __________________ My life is like a coaster....I get dispatched, roll towards the lift hill, it disengages, and I let gravity take care of the rest

05-03-2009, 11:19 PM	#27
darkGDI Your RCT3 Expert! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,161	sounds like a cool idea, and you've got my download if it turns out alright! __________________ TylorSweeney.com The Personal Webpage of Tylor Sweeney, aka darkGDI GreaterGamer Reviews. Previews. Opinions. For Gamers, By Gamers.

05-06-2009, 04:57 PM	#28
Mackie85 Custom Designer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 100	Folks just to let you know system problems have been resolved and laptop is now running faster and smoother than ever. Another 2GBs of ram are on their way and once I install them and transfer all files back over we will be back in business to get this finished and hopefully ingame. Cheers __________________ C.M Designs Tycoon Engineering

05-06-2009, 04:58 PM	#29
gavt1976 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6,340	Thanks for letting us know mackie, what is happening and we are all looking forward to see this new ride of yours.

05-12-2009, 03:34 AM	#30
Flap Intoxx Crew Meeuws Exploitatie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holland Posts: 351	well the force you get on droptowers is almost 4.5 G-Force, So the towers can't be higher than 35 metres or you get over the G-max. The force on droptowers is different to a rollercoaster. by a rollercoaster you get more G-Force in front of your face, in droptowers the G-Force comes from down under. If you put your head down under the g-force would be to hard for people cause there loose things in their brain cause of the hard G. Never loop a droptower, it's too dangerous for us all.

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